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Truth and Consequences Submitted by: David Codrea Website: http://waronguns.blogspot.com	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
... "As these words are written, the media-ordained front runner is planning to ratchet up his controls over you. If he wins, as leading opinion-makers seem to be cheer leading and prepping everyone for, and if thats accompanied by his party making significant gains in the House and Senate, we aint seen nothin yet. The stakes and consequences are huge." ...

Opposing Views: What Do Guns Mean to Americans? The NRA vs. the Brady Campaign
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"Americans revere their Constitution but they can vehemently disagree on how to interpret specific passages. The 2nd Amendment is a prime example of how individual rights, self-defense, violence and American culture can produce such passion and divisiveness. The non-partisan Web site Opposing Views asked the NRA and the Brady Campaign what guns mean to Americans."

"The Freedom to Protect Yourself, Your Family, and Your Community

By Chris W. Cox, NRA-ILA executive director" ...

"We Must Make it Harder for Dangerous People to Get Dangerous Weapons

By Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence"

Vanderboegh: A Rebuttal to Jeff Knox Submitted by: Concerned American Website: http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
"Jeff Knox has this day penned a letter designed to calm his fellow sheep, entitled 'Mutual Assured Destruction.' You will find it here. He makes a number of assertions in it, which I will deal with below, ad seriatim." ...

Gun Manufacturer Executive Backs Barack Obama, Watch What Happens Next
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"You've been ZUMBOED!"

"USA Today reports:"

"Dan Cooper CEO of Cooper Arms, one of the elite makers of hunting rifles, is backing Barack Obama." ...

"Just minutes after the USA Today broke the story on the Internet, thousands and thousands of gun owners sent angry emails, called and sent boycott letters to Cooper Arms ..."

"Just 48 hours later, this is what appeared on the company website:"

"In response to the recent article highlighting Dan Cooper's personal political donations, the board of directors, shareholders and employees of Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc would like to issue the following statement." ...

"The board of directors has asked Mr. Cooper to resign ..." ...

"We wish him all of the best in his future pursuits."

Rifle company executive ousted after announcing Obama support
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"Montana gunsmith Dan Cooper has been ousted as chief executive of the rifle company that bears his name after pressure from gun owners who are angry that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama."

"Cooper, founder and part owner of Cooper Firearms Inc., told USA TODAY in a story published Tuesday that he has voted for Republicans for most of his life, but he is backing Obama 'probably because of the war. And also because the Republican Party has moved so far right in recent years.' Cooper said he was attracted to the Democrat's message about 'the retooling of America, which involves the building of middle-class jobs and helping American small business be competitive with those overseas.'" ...

Weapons Cache 101
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"I don't believe in burying weapons. Still, I have received so many emails about this that I guess I need to mention something. Whatever you do, you need to keep at least one weapon set ... with you along with the accompanying ammo. But for those with extensive arsenals who want to secure them better and outside of the 'gun safe' method, read on."

"To cache means to hide something. ... A true cache, like we are discussing, should be able to lay undetected for years."

"There may be varying levels of caches as well. An E&E (escape and evasion) cache will contain a complete getaway kit in addition to a pistol and maybe a folding stock AK, that while well hidden, can be grabbed up and used in a blink of an eye. ..." ...

Gunning for Victory Submitted by: RPA-PAC Website: http://www.rpa-pac.org	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
"In a very tough election climate for Republicans, the good news is that the gun issue is increasingly non-partisan. We can see this every day in the Senate, where Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is friendlier towards the Second Amendment than was Republican Senate majority leader Howard Baker in the 1980s." ...

NRA President John Sigler Exercises His Right To Remain Silent: "No Comment" After Boy Shoots, Kills Self With Uzi At "Gun Fair"
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"Following its standard pattern of behavior, National Rifle Association leaders are saying little-to-nothing in the wake of a tragedy that even gun enthusiasts agree was a complete breach of common sense - if not Massachusetts law."

"This time, the insult of silence comes directly from the top."

"Per the AP:

"The head of the National Rifle Association refused to comment Wednesday night on the accidental shooting death of an 8-year-old boy at a gun show." ...

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KABA Note: So the Bradys feel that choosing not to make political hay out of a tragedy is on par with not criminally incriminating oneself?

NY: Store takes $500G hit for selling fake guns
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"The party is over for Party City, which paid a $500,000 fine for selling real-looking toy guns, the Department of Consumer Affairs said Wednesday."

"'Fake guns that look like real aren't toys. In fact, they're so dangerous that selling them is illegal,' said DCA Commissioner Jonathan Mintz."

"Last April, the agency charged the company with 800 counts of violating the city's imitation gun law after inspectors found them selling fake guns that looked real." ...

"City law prevents stores from selling authentic-looking fake guns and requires toy firearms to be brightly colored red, white, blue, pink, purple or white." ...

TX: Intruder killed in Arlington break-in is identified
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An intruder killed Monday night after he got into a shootout with a homeowner was identified as 32-year-old Cedric Phillips of Arlington.

Phillips was reportedly one of two gunmen who forced their way into a home in the 900 block of Carthage Way before being met by an armed resident inside. Phillips and the unnamed resident exchanged gunfire on the stairs.

Phillips died instantly from multiple gunshot wounds to the head, chest and abdomen, according to the Tarrant County medical examiner's Web site.

Police have said the resident appeared to be justified in the shooting.

Police are still seeking the identity of the second intruder.

Jennifer Hudson family slayings used to tout gun-rack product in ad
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"Officials with a company that manufactures shotgun racks sent out a news release Tuesday that asked, 'Could a Bedside Shotgun Rack Have Saved Jennifer Hudson's Family from Tragic Death?'"

"The rack, called The Back-Up ... is designed to fit along the side of the gun owner's bed, between the mattress and box spring. ..."

"A. John Peters, president of Home Back-Up Protection, said Tuesday that he didn't issue the news release to capitalize on the Chicago family's pain." ...
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Submitter's Note: As David Codrea points out, since this was Chicago, no, 'The Back Up' wouldn't have helped unless they hit the intruder over the head with it.

Obama's past anti-2nd Amendment
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Why does it seem that we keep hearing that Sen. Obama will not 'take our guns'? Is it because he has consistently voted for gun control laws? His supporters are worried that you might judge him on his past performance. ... the best predictor for future behavior is an individual's past behavior. ... Sen. Obama's voting record indicates that there hasn't been a gun control bill he doesn't like."

"The common fellow also recognizes where Sen. Obama's heart is on the issue when he refers to those who are 'bitter' and 'cling to guns.' Recently he admitted, 'Even if I want to take them [guns] away, I don't have the votes in Congress.' Somehow, I do not see that reflecting strong support for my Second Amendment Rights." ...

Nightmare on Obama Street
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Last night I had the nightmare that shadows all nightmares. I had a nightmare that I woke up one morning & found out that America Hating Mrs. Obama was the first lady, and even worse, BHO was President. After he & the Democrat run Congress made it illegal to manufacture, sale, or possess all semiautomatic firearms as well as handguns of all types, he declared martial law & was going house to house searching for weapons to confiscate for destruction.

Lets all get out to vote this coming Tuesday & make sure my nightmare never becomes a reality.

Obama and guns
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"In speech after speech, Barack Obama has claimed he would 'uphold the Second Amendment.' Mr. Obama, of course, is a polished speaker who says 'words matter.' But records matter more. And while Mr. Obama is short on experience on most issues, he's long on anti-gun votes and even longer on rhetoric. Now's a good time to review both."

"One of Mr. Obama's first statements on the issue really said it all. During his first run for the Illinois Senate in 1996, Mr. Obama said on a candidate questionnaire that he supported legislation to 'ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.' ..." ...

Sportsmen for Obama shoot and discuss politics
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"Like other sportsmen I get frustrated when I hear individuals suggest that 'the Democrats are going to take away our guns.'"

"After spending a career as a fisheries research scientist and in teaching, I've come to believe it is typically the other political party that limits investment in natural resource programs essential to the future of sport fishing and hunting. As a result, I asked several individuals who enjoy guns, shooting and hunting to join me recently in a sporting clays shoot at the Old Fort Douglas Shooting Range just south of Superior, to shoot and talk about the Second Amendment, hunting and fishing." ...

ID: Uzis, 'howitzers' pop up in Idaho campaign
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"Democratic candidate Walt Minnick leads Republican U.S. Rep. Bill Sali by a seven-to-five margin in one of the most telling polls of Idaho's 1st Congressional District race: a tally of the two rivals' personal firearms."

"In Idaho, gun ownership - especially in tight elections - can be a way for candidates to communicate shared values with residents, many of whom hunted before they could watch PG-13 movies."

"Minnick owns seven guns: three pistols, a .22-caliber rifle, two Remington shotguns and a pellet gun he's used to teach his children to shoot. Sali, who in 2006 helped fight off an Army National Guard effort to restrict shooting in a Snake River raptor preserve, owns two shotguns and three rifles." ...

IL: Q&A meeting set on concealed carry law
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Residents are urged to attend an informational meeting regarding the concealed carry law referendum that is on the Nov. 4 ballot."

"Benton Public Property Commissioner Ronnie Baumgarte said the meeting is set for 6:30 p.m. in the Benton Elks Lodge, 167 Industrial Park Road."

"Illinois Carry spokesperson Valinda Rowe said the town hall meeting would include a question-and-answer period."

"'We would love for people to come to the meeting to address their concerns about the legislation,' Rowe said. 'Illinois is one of only two states that has not passed a concealed carry law. A concealed carry law means that qualified, responsible and law-abiding adults would be licensed to carry a concealed firearm for personal defense.'" ...

NC: NRA Endorses McHenry
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"The McHenry for Congress campaign announced this week that the National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund endorsed the reelection of Congressman Patrick McHenry and awarded him an 'A' rating for his pro-Second Amendment voting record." ...

"In a letter to Congressman McHenry, the NRA wrote, 'During your tenure in the House, you consistently supported a strong commitment to the Second Amendment and our hunting heritage. We urge our members and all other gun owners and sportsmen in the tenth congressional district of North Carolina to vote for your reelection to the U.S House of Representatives.'" ...

TX: Former officer alleges sexual assault by chief
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"It was at one of the frequent parties thrown by the former police chief of a small South Texas town where one of his officers awoke naked with the chief performing oral sex on him, the officer testified Thursday."

"Former Alton Police Chief Jose Luis Vela is charged with sexually assaulting the officer during a 2006 party at his home. Vela's attorney said in his opening statement Thursday that the sex was consensual."

"Vela was also indicted on charges alleging he sexually assaulted another employee at one of his parties and that he took a confiscated gun from the department evidence locker ..."

"The officer ... testified in the uniform of the new police department where he works." ...

MO: Former Mo. correctional officer charged with rapes
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A former state correctional officer has been charged in a series of rapes in Springfield that occurred over the last eight years.

Forty-six-year-old Bobbie McGhee, of Springfield, was arrested on a total of 15 counts in five rapes. The charges include multiple counts of rape, sodomy and burglary.

Greene County court records show that the earliest rape occurred in April 2000, and the most recent happened Oct. 8. Three of the rapes occurred at hotels.

McGhee also is a suspect in a rape in Fulton.

Police say they linked McGhee to the rapes through DNA he left on eating utensils that an investigator collected at a restaurant.

McGhee is being held in the Greene County jail.

NY: Officer pilfered pastries with his free coffee, police say
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"On weekday mornings, Sgt. Steve Brody of the Morrisville State College University Police often would stop at the local convenience store, to buy a newspaper and pick up a free cup of coffee."

"The coffee at the Valero Nice N Easy is free to any police officer in uniform."

"What wasn't free were the Tastykake pastries that state police now say he helped himself to, often concealing them in the paper or his shirt. He usually helped himself to one, but once took as many as four ..."

"Brody was warned to stop stealing from the Route 20 store several months ago, but continued to take Tastykakes on at least 17 separate occasions since Aug. 18 ... Brody, 55, of Morrisville, was ticketed Oct. 17 for petit larceny." ...

PA: Corrections officer arrested on drug charges
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"A corrections officer at State Correctional Institution at Fayette is facing multiple charges after he allegedly supplied drugs to inmates inside the prison."

"Todd Allen Robinson ... was charged Tuesday ... with possession with intent to deliver marijuana, possession of marijuana and criminal use of a communication facility."

"Trooper Mark Yakicic of the state police ... said the charges were filed against Robinson after an informant inside the prison notified police that Robinson was supplying drugs to inmates for a fee."

"In the criminal complaint filed in the case, Yakicic said that on Oct. 23 an undercover state police trooper called Robinson and arranged for him to bring marijuana to an inmate inside the prison." ...

FL: New Port Richey Police officer arrested for DUI
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A New Port Richey Police officer is out of jail on bond, facing numerous charges in an early morning hit and run crash.

The Florida Highway Patrol says 30-year-old Christopher Sutherlin slammed his 2006 Nissan pickup into the back of another truck around 3:00 a.m. on Sunset Road in Pasco County.

Troopers say Sutherlin took off, but was forced to stop because of heavy damage to his vehicle.

A passenger in Sutherlin's truck, as well as the driver in the other truck, were slightly injured.

Troopers say Sutherlin's breath test registered a .148 and a .151 blood-alcohol level.

Florida law presumes drivers impaired at .08.

NM: Police officer arrested for domestic violence
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"A Clovis police officer was arrested Sunday on charges of domestic battery ..."

"Johnny Zamora was placed on paid administrative leave for the duration of the criminal case, Capt. Patrick Whitney said."

"Jail officials said Zamora was released Monday on his own recognizance."

"Whitney said because of personnel issues, he was unable to comment further on the arrest."

"Zamora told officers he choked his wife during an argument in the early morning hours Sunday after a coworker reported knowledge of the incident to a supervisor ..."

"Officers documented marks on the womans neck and wrists, the report said, and witnesses gave statements that the couple had argued while in their vehicle." ...

TX: Ex-Grapevine Officer Charged In Teen Groping Case
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"A former officer with the Grapevine Police Department has been formally charged by the Roanoke Police Department after accusations that he groped a teenage girl and served her alcohol."

"... Billy Wayne Bradford ... voluntarily resigned in August after the allegations were made."

"The alleged incident happened over the summer at the officer's house in Roanoke, while he was off-duty." ...

"According to the affidavit, the girl told police that the suspect 'had offered her Shiner Bock beer and Captain Morgan rum with juice' and that she became drunk."

"The affidavit also says that the suspect's 'hand was still inside her tank top and inside her bra as he began rubbing her breast.'" ...

AR: Retired Ark. officer charged over teen threats
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"A retired West Memphis police officer faces criminal charges after allegedly using a department-issued cellular phone to threaten a 14-year-old girl."

"WMC-TV of Memphis says a criminal affidavit accuses Billy Sanders of sending almost 500 text messages to the girl during a 72-hour period. The station said Sanders told the teen anonymously that he knew 'dirty little secrets and am going tell your secret if you don't pay me money'"

"The station says Sanders later told the girl that the only way he'd keep her secret is if she'd have sex with him. The affidavit details several graphic sexual exchanges Sanders had with the girl." ...
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Submitter's Note: Officer Sanders resigned suddenly after the allegations were made.

FL: Teen almost shot because of Halloween costume
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"While pretending to be a popular Halloween character, a 19-year-old almost became part of a real-life horror story."

"Jim Sprinkles and his brother were playing outside of their ... home when a retired police officer thought she saw Sprinkles with a gun. The woman immediately called the sheriff's office, pulled out her own gun, and pointed it at Sprinkles." ...

"When deputies arrived they ordered Sprinkles to the ground." ...

"The deputy also ordered the retired officer to drop her gun." ...

"Sprinkles was finally able to tell his side of the story and deputies let him go."

"'I was like freaked out I didn't know what to say ya know,' said Sprinkles."

"No one was charged in the incident." ...

Gun owners fret Obama White House
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"The nation's gun owners have the presidential election in their sights."

"Some are up at arms about the prospect of future gun legislation should Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama win the White House. Others are beefing up their personal arsenals, skittish that firearms could become scarce or too expensive in the near future."

"'If the economy is down, and gun sales are up, it shows you just how deep-seated the concern is out there about the situation,' said Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association." ...

TN: Gun Sales Soar, Handgun Permits Rise
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"Gun stores are doing big business these days despite the sluggish economy."

"Sales may be slow for some retailers but there are two reasons why the registers have been ringing at gun stores."

"'I have personally never seen it like it has been this year,' said Larry Baity at Gun City USA in Nashville."

"He has sold a record number of guns recently... and he knows why."

"When the economy goes south, it kind of goes hand in glove, crime increases." ...

"In Tennessee, handgun permits have skyrocketed. In September 2007, about 186,000 people had a carry permit."

"In July 2008, there were 196,000 people."

"Safety isn't the only reason ... The presidential candidates' positions on gun control is another." ...

FL: Firearm sales surge as election nears
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"Political views and ads are driving an increase interest in firearms."

"Gun sales and permit requests are up in many places, including here in Southwest Florida."

"These days Mike Christoff's Mobile Tactics gun shop and range is busier than normal."

"'There's a lot of people who never even considered carrying a weapon, but are thinking about just in case, obtaining a carry permit,' Christoff says."

"Many of his customers worry that if Barack Obama wins the election, their right to bear arms could be reduced or taken away." ...

KY: Gun Sales Up Before Election
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Many Americans are cutting back on purchases these days, but federal data shows an increase in people buying firearms and ammunition. Some think campaign 2008 is influencing those numbers."

"Owners at JT's Gun & Pawn say gun and ammo sales have tripled in the weeks leading up to the presidential election and they say they don't think it's a coincidence."

"Bryan Wilson is a gun collector, but fears democratic talks of gun controls will make buying firearms more difficult after the upcoming election."

"'People are buying them because they are afraid they won't be able to get any ...' gun owner Bryan Wilson said."

"They are fears some gun shop owners say have sparked a jump in sales numbers." ...

ID: Gun sales on the rise in Idaho due to possible new laws
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"Sales of firearms have increased in south-central Idaho, firearms dealers in the region say, because of fears of possible new gun control laws if Sen. Barack Obama is elected president."

"Ryan Horsley, manager of Red's Trading Post in Twin Falls, says gun owners are concerned that certain kinds of guns could be banned."

"Specifically, he said, sales of assault-type rifles, such as military-style AR-15s, have jumped, far outselling traditional, bolt-action hunting rifles."

"'We had a particular sale of them a little while ago ... and in one day our sales were over $20,000,' Horsley said."

"Obama has said he supports an individual's right to bear arms but that he also believes in "commonsense safety measures." ...

CO: Arming Up For President Obama
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"As polls show Democrat Barack Obama leading in his race with Republican John McCain for President of the United States, more and more Americans are arming themselves."

"Gun sales are up nationwide and in Colorado."

"'Probably an increase of 25 percent,' said Richard Taylor, manager of the Firing Line in Aurora."

"Time and again, Taylor said customers, especially first-time buyers, say they're afraid an Obama White House would mean more gun control."

"'If Barack Obama gets in people are concerned they might not be able to purchase certain types of firearms. So that has been driving a number of the sales,' Taylor said." ...

NY: Young guns ready for Southern Zone
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"New York state's single biggest hunting day - the opening day of the Southern Zone firearms deer season - is taking on a new look this year."

"The Nov. 15 opener will send thousands of 14- and 15-year-olds afield for the first time in the firearms deer season, courtesy of long-awaited legislation lowering the state's minimum hunting age for deer and bear."

"'There's definitely more interest among young hunters this year, now that 14- and 15-year-olds can hunt,' said Doug Grove, owner of Bristol Outdoors in Bloomfield (Ontario County). 'And it has definitely translated into more license sales and more gun sales.'" ...

CA: Between the Lines Handgun law robs The City
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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... "Predictably, the [NRA] along with several other folks filed a lawsuit in San Francisco Superior Court as soon as Prop H was passed. The plaintiffs won, so the handgun ban was never put into effect. ... Undeterred, The City appealed that ruling, and lost again. ... Then The City tried to get the State Supreme Court to hear the case but was refused. Eh, it's over. Right?"

"Not so fast. There is still the teensy little matter of plaintiffs' attorney fees, which, because our handgun ban had exactly zero chance of surviving a legal challenge, The City will almost certainly be ordered to pay. ... Last Thursday ... the Board of Supervisors considered a proposal ... to settle the plaintiffs claims for attorneys fees for $380,000." ...

NY: Skeet shooter, 14, quick on the draw
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"Recently, I profiled an area youth with an affinity for hunting in a column. Shortly thereafter I received an e-mail from Joe Hogan, asking me to consider a similar article on another young man from the area."

"Hogan was speaking on behalf of 14-year-old Nick Jordan, a resident of Rensselaer County. Jordan became interested in skeet shooting in a big way a little more than a year ago, and has taken his new hobby all the way to the Empire State Games." ...

WY: Police impersonator pulls gun on woman
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"A man apparently impersonating a police officer pulled a gun on a Gillette woman this morning after stopping her on Highway 259 between Midwest and Interstate 25."

"The man, who was driving a gray single cab pickup, had used a yellow light to stop the woman at about 7 a.m., said Natrona County Sheriff's Sgt. Mark Sellers. She didn't see a badge on him, so when he asked for her identification, she asked for his."

"That's when the man, who was wearing a black tee shirt that said 'Police' on the back, pulled out a handgun." ...

"This morning's incident is the third in less than a week involving someone who approached a driver while apparently posing as a law enforcement officer." ...

PA: Lost-gun ordinances usually fire blanks
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"Lose a gun in Cleveland and fail to report it to police and you could face a $250 fine and 30 days in jail. But in the 12 years that ordinance has been on Cleveland's books, only two people have been taken to court for failing to report ..."

"That experience, and those of other cities, suggests that Pittsburgh's proposed ordinance on reporting lost or stolen guns and others cropping up all over the state and nation warrant neither the fear they are engendering in foes, nor the hope they inspire in advocates."

"The target for anti-violence advocates is the so-called straw purchaser ... When police trace that gun back to the original purchaser, that person often gets off the hook by claiming it was stolen or lost." ...

OH: ODOT notifies Buckeye Firearms Assoc. rest stop 'NO GUNS' signs to come down
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"Buckeye Firearms Association has just received word from the Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) that the NO GUNS signs at state rest stops have been ordered removed. In the telephone call to Buckeye Firearms Association Leader and NRA Election Volunteer Coordinator Rick Jones, ODOT stated that their legal department has confirmed with multiple state departments that the signs are to be removed."

"This action is in response to passage and implementation of Senate Bill 184, which included several major fixes to Ohio's concealed handgun licensure law."

"The law took effect September 3, but gun owners continued to see the problematic signs at highway rest stops." ...