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How much for the Heller case lawyers?
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"Prevailing parties in civil rights cases are entitled to a 'reasonable' attorney's fee. We are the attorneys who represented Dick Heller in the landmark Supreme Court case striking down Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban on Second Amendment grounds, and we have asked the court to award us $3.5 million for six years of litigation."

"The Washington Post has characterized that request as 'adding insult to injury' and a 'windfall' to which we are not entitled. The Post's editorial is long on rhetoric but short on analysis. In fact, the $3.5 million request is perfectly reasonable under existing court precedent." ...

Vanderboegh: An Open Letter to Jonathan Chait
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"Jonathan Chait of The New (People's) Republic magazine has proclaimed the death of conservatism, exulting that it is 'the end of an error.' As someone who has watched from afar for lo these many years, cursing the Big Government, sell-out-their-own-mothers, so-called "Republicans" of whom George W. Bush is the prime example, I would like to pose a question or two."

"How is it that an idea can fail, if it's never been tried? How is it that a governing principle can 'fail' if it's never been allowed to govern? I tell you truly, Jonathan Chait has yet to see a government run by the Founder's principles. He also has yet to see our economy run according to free-market principles. ..." ...

Restoring the Second Amendment
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"For nearly 10 years, the case of Nordyke v. King has been winding its way through the California courts. At issue is a 1999 Alameda County ordinance banning the possession of firearms on county-owned property, a law enacted primarily to keep gun shows out of the county fairground. To date, the case has been heard by the district court, the California Supreme Court, and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, where gun show promoters Russell and Sallie Nordyke have so far proven unsuccessful in their fight to overturn the law."

"But that was before District of Columbia v. Heller ..." ...

Lightweight .50-Caliber: Lethality at half the weight
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"As Soldiers training for combat look to lighten their load, they can look forward to the Lightweight .50-Caliber Machine Gun."

"The LW50, an addition to the Army's arsenal of machine guns at one-half the weight of the M2 .50-Caliber Machine Gun and with 60 percent less recoil, does not require the setting of headspace and timing. The LW50 provides Soldiers with the punch of a .50-caliber machine gun in the footprint of a 7.62mm weapon system, allowing them to bring .50 caliber lethality to the fight in situations where using a light to medium machine gun is the only available option."

"The LW50 is still in the early stages of system design and development ..." ...

Sturm, Ruger & Co. buys back 1.1M shares in 3Q
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"Firearm manufacturer Sturm, Ruger & Co. said Monday it spent $7.4 million in the third quarter to buy back 1.1 million shares."

"The amount represents 5.5 percent of shares outstanding in April, when the current $10 million buyback program was authorized."

"Sturm, Ruger said it repurchased the shares for an average price of $6.50 with cash on hand. At the end of the July-September period, the company said 19.5 million shares were outstanding, and that it had about $22 million in cash and no debt on its balance sheet." ...

A Vote For Guns Is A Vote For 'Family Values'
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"A red herring raised every election cycle: 'Democrats will take away our hunting guns.'"

"National Public Radio (9-24-08) recently spoke to Democrat Louis Brandenburg in southwestern Pennsylvania, whose friends are voting for McCain-Palin because of 'the hunting issue.' 'I can't understand what happened to our party....the Republican Party is always the ones who back hunters and sportsmen...all we get from the other one is flack about hunting and guns,' protested Mr. Brandenburg."

"In fact, Democrats have never challenged the right to own hunting or sports guns...." ...

VA: Keep parks safe from loaded guns
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"Last week week, Attorney General Bob McDonnell advised the Virginia Department of Conservation and Recreation that it does not have the authority to restrict firearms in state parks, potentially upending rules that have been in place at least 30 years."

"Contrary to what the opinion suggests, there's no crime wave ... suggesting the need for such dramatic action."

"The last murder in a state park took place 20 years ago ... With 7 million visitors each year, that's a safety record worth boasting about."

"Park officials have banned firearms around picnic grounds, swimming holes and boat landings - areas where most people gather for fun and relaxation - in an abundance of caution." ...
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Another Conspiracy Theory...
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"...except this time, it's been recorded on C-SPAN and revealed on the floor of the House of Representatives."

"Martial law. Pre-election scare tactics? Anybody think plans aren't in place for when certain conditions are met?"

"Who knows if the current series of events will be the ones that trigger a suspension of what was supposed to make America different. If not this disaster, we face others threats of equal if not greater danger. And many are but a meal or two away from no food and water."

"The fact that martial law is being discussed in the Congress should give everyone pause--as much as we'd like to deny or at least ignore the unique dangers of our time." ...

NC: Clerk, robber swap shots in grocery
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"A store clerk and a robber shot at each other during an attempted robbery Thursday night, Winston-Salem police said yesterday."

"Police said that the store clerk, Soon Kwon, was outside the Liberty Street Grocery on Old Rural Hall Road about 8:40 p.m. when a man came up and pointed a gun at him. The two went inside, and, as Kwon was walking behind the counter to get money, he pushed the store's alarm and grabbed a gun."

"The robber shot at Kwon, missing him, and Kwon shot back, police said. It's not clear whether Kwon's shot hit the robber."

"The robber wore dark clothing, a hood and a mask, and was about 5 feet 9 inches with a thin build, police said." ...

WI: Resident shoots at armed intruder
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A Madison man shot at an armed intruder to his residence Tuesday morning but missed in what police said was not a random home invasion.

Madison police said the incident happened about 10:53 a.m. at a residence in the 1800 block of Browning Road on the city's northeast side.

Two residents at home, a man and a woman in their 20s, said the suspect, a male in his 20s, was carrying a handgun and forced his way in through a door.

"The male victim grabbed a rifle, prompting the perpetrator to flee," said police spokesman Joel DeSpain. "The resident shot at him but missed."

No one was injured. The case remains under investigation.

AL: Burglary suspect shot by victim
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"A burglary suspect remains in the hospital after a Crabtree Road resident shot him Sunday afternoon."

"Shawn Lincoln, 22, of York is suspected of trying to burglarize the home around 6:30 p.m. Sunday." ...

"Baker said Lincoln approached three people in a yard and asked whether they had drugs. Baker said they told him no, and Lincoln then pulled a gun and forced them into the home. The 22-year-old resident had armed himself by the time they came inside and gunfire was exchanged."

"Lincoln allegedly ran to a nearby home where he asked to call 911 because he had been shot in the arm and chest. His injuries were not life-threatening. Lincolns bail is set at $20,000."

GA: Home invasion victim fights back
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"The victim of an attempted Moultrie home invasion turned the tables and fired on the invaders before they could break into his home."

"Two of three men were show and now all three are charged with attempted armed robbery. Police were called to the Pineland Apartments Saturday. Ivan Hightower told police he was getting into the shower when he heard a noise. He grabbed his gun because he had been robbed before and looked out the window to find three men in dark colored hoodies with guns. Hightower then opened fire on the would-be robbers. The District Attorney is now looking at the case to see if Hightower will be charged."

"'The D.A. has not made his decision on that yet. ...' said Lt. Alfonzo Cook, Moultrie Police." ...

TN: Riverview Homeowner Holds Shotgun On Thief
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"Police said a Riverview homeowner found a thief in his car in his carport and held him at bay with a shotgun."

"Lewis Card of Edgewood Circle said he heard his driveway alarm going off. He said he grabbed his shotgun and hurried outside."

"Mr. Card said he spotted a black male inside his vehicle."

"He said he held the shotgun on the intruder and ordered him outside the car. Then he directed him to lie down."

"The homeowner said the man told him he was just after some change. ..."

"He asked Mr. Card not to call police, saying he 'didn't want to go back to jail.'"

"With the shotgun still trained on him, he handed over his Tennessee ID card. Mr. Card said it appeared to be his correct card." ...

PA: Pa. teen can't wear gun T-shirt to school
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"A federal judge has sided with a south-central Pennsylvania school district in a dispute over whether a high school student should have been barred from wearing a T-shirt with images of guns on it."

"'Students have no constitutional right to promote violence in our public schools,' U.S. District Judge James Knoll Gardner in Allentown wrote in the Sept. 30 opinion[.pdf] ..."

"Donald Miller III, now a 15-year-old sophomore at Penn Manor High School in Millersville, was given detention in December after he defied an assistant principal's order to turn the shirt inside-out. Images of two guns were printed on the shirt, along with phrases including, 'United States Terrorist Hunting Permit ... No Bag Limit.'" ...

Barack "LIES": GOP responds to new Obama ad claiming support for hunting rights & self-defense
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"'Barack Obama is running TV ads about guns without telling the national media because he knows they would never pass a credible fact check ...' Alex Conant, RNC Spokesman"

"New Obama Campaign Ad Lies About Obama's Support For Hunting Rights:"

"Obama Campaign Ad: NRA Member Greg West: 'I hunt, I fish, I love the outdoors. I love this country and I support Barack Obama.' (Ben Smith, 'Obama: 'Life Member,' The Politico's 'Ben Smith's Blog,' www.politico.com, 10/5/08)"

"The Ad Does Not Mention That In 2003, Obama Voted In Support Of Legislation That 'Would Have Banned Most Of The Privately Held Hunting Shotguns, Target Rifles, And Black Powder Rifles' In Illinois. ..." ...
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Submitter's Note: If my eyes don't decieve me, Greg is carrying a semi-auto 12 gauge, which would have been a Class 3 felony under SB1195.

Obama and the Attempt to Destroy the Second Amendment
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"As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama must demonstrate executive experience, but he remains strangely silent about his eight years (1994-2002) as a director of the Joyce Foundation ... He has one obvious reason: during his time as director, Joyce Foundation spent millions creating and supporting anti-gun organizations."

"There is another, less known, reason." ...

"In 1999, midway through Obamas tenure, the Joyce board voted to grant the Chicago-Kent Law Review $84,000, a staggering sum by law review standards. The Review promptly published an issue in which all articles attacked the individual right view of the Second Amendment."

"In a breach of law review custom, Chicago-Kent let an 'outsider' serve as editor ..." ...

Fact Checking the Fact Checker
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"The Post's Sept. 24 'Fact Checker' on NRA advertisements about Sen. Barack Obama's gun record itself disregarded the facts ..."

"The Post claimed that Mr. Obama only wanted to tax 'certain types' of guns in 1999. But the sentence in the 1999 article cited in the ad said, 'Obama is also seeking to increase the federal taxes by 500 percent on the sale of . . . ammunition . . . .'"

"The Post also claimed that an amendment Mr. Obama voted for in 2005 would not have banned hunting rifle ammunition ... But while pushing the same proposal in 2004, Mr. Kennedy denounced the .30-30 Winchester ... Mr. Kennedy found it 'outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America.'" ...

Barack FACT: Obama joined former terrorist and friend Bill Ayers on stage in 1997 to fight crime bill
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"... Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin delivered headlines across America this weekend by drawing attention to Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's long-time connections to unrepentant former terrorist Bill Ayers."

"Obama's campaign surrogates at the New York Times is attempting to pass off the connection as nothing more than 'crossed paths' and 'casual encounters' - you know, 'casual' like meeting Ayers at his home in 1995, and serving on a seven-member board together for several years ..."

"Another 'casual encounter' between Obama and Ayers has been uncovered - sharing the stage in 1997 in a fight to stop crime legislation aimed at punishing under-18 gang-bangers who use guns in their heinous crimes as adults." ...

What Is The NRA Thinking?
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"The National Rifle Association has just issued its 'candidate's ratings.'"

Some simply make no sense." ...

"If you are an NRA member, you should consider contacting them and asking how a freedom hating militant like Burdick does not get an 'F' and Gordon Smith who promised to vote to renew Bill Clinton's gun ban gets an 'A-' Meanwhile, anti-gun Attorney General candidate John Kroger is unrated, and vocally pro-gun candidate Jim Leuenberger is ignored."

"For better or worse, many gun owners trust and turn to the NRA for guidance when making decisions at election time. This year, the NRA has given some bizarre and dangerous candidate's ratings." ...
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Hunters Against Obama
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"You know, I'd love to believe that Obama is cool with guns and hunting, but when the nation's largest and most radical group that wants to ban hunting thinks he's peachy, it makes this middle-aged redneck think that maybe Barack is full of B'crap and his 'pro gun/hunting' spiel is just another con job spun by the King of Obfuscation. But that's just me."

"This past week Obama added to his rogue gallery of support groups another radical band of anti-American spirit lunatics. No, I'm not talking about an additional endorsement by a new terrorist group or Black Muslim faction, or pro-abortion loon, or another communist cabal, or an extra Castro/Chavez-like dictator but rather the Humane Society (HSUS)." ...

NJ: Healy still sticking to his gun ... legislation
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"A state appellate court struck down on Monday Mayor Jerramiah Healy's 'one handgun a month' ordinance for Jersey City, but Healy is hoping state legislators will make it a state law instead."

"The New Jersey Appellate Division issued a decision upholding a 2006 Hudson County Superior Court ruling that invalidated the Jersey City ordinance that would limit handgun purchases to one per month per individual."

"The ordinance had been pushed by Healy and approved by the City Council in 2006."

"But it met with opposition from various gun rights advocates, including longtime Jersey City gun dealer Frank Caso and the New Jersey chapter of the National Rifle Association (NRA)." ...

VA: Senate Candidate: Homeschoolers, Pro-Lifers, Gun Owners Threaten American Values
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"I haven't been following closely the Virginia senate race between Democrat Mark Warner and Republican Jim Gilmore ..."

"But I came across this clip this morning and found it startling. ... Democrats ... are usually more circumspect about their true feelings like this."

"In this clip, you'll hear Democrat Senate candidate Mark Warner tell a group"

you're going to see a coalition ... made up of the Christian Coalition, it's made up of the right to lifers, it's made up of the NRA, it's made up of the homeschoolers, it's made up of a whole coalition of people that have all sorts of different views that I think most of us in this room would find threatening to what it means to be an American."

"So Christianity is threatening to what it means to be an American?" ...

PA: Wyoming governor to stump for Obama
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"Wyoming Gov. David D. Freudenthal will be stopping in Somerset today to talk with sportsmen about Sen. Barack Obama's views on gun rights."

"The stop is one of four on a tour of small towns in western Pennsylvania sponsored by the Obama campaign. Freudenthal will also be speaking to voters in Grindstone, McDonald and Tarentum."

"Allison Price, Obama spokeswoman, said both Obama and Sen. Joe Biden believe the Second Amendment guarantees the right to bear arms."

"'They will protect the rights of hunters and other Pennsylvanians to transport, own and use guns,' Price said." ...

TN: NRA Endorses Write-In Skeet Shooter Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Website: http://www.nysrpa.org	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
"The National Rifle Association (NRA) has endorsed Senator Rosalind Kurita (D-Clarksville) in her write-in campaign for re-election to the 22nd district in the state Senate. The group had endorsed Sen. Kurita during her primary victory and has now endorsed her for the general election in November." ...

NY: NRA in NY: Regional scorecard Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Website: http://www.nysrpa.org	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
"Here's more from the NRA's Political Victory Fund report card on state candidates. As noted previously, 20th Congressional District opponents Sandy Treadwell and Rep. Kirstern Gillibrand received top scores, although Gillibrand nabbed the groups endorsemnt an incumbent with a voting record trumps an opponent with the right answers to the NRA's questionaire." ...

MI: Stupak receives NRA endorsement
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"U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Menominee, has received the endorsement of the [NRA] in his re-election bid to the 1st District seat in Congress."

"'As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Congressman Bart Stupak has supported the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen, and demonstrated a commitment to the Second Amendment and to preserving our country's rich hunting heritage,' Chris W. Cox, chairman of NRA Political Victory Fund, said in a news release from Stupak's campaign."

"Stupak has cosponsored and voted in favor of legislation to protect gun rights, campaign officials said." ...

FL: Mahoney gets NRA endorsement
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"South Florida Congressman Tim Mahoney, a prime target for Republicans this year, today proudly accepted the endorsement of the National Rifle Association in his hard-fought re-election campaign."

"Mahoney of Palm Beach Gardens was once considered one of the most vulnerable Democrats in the House after replacing scandal-tarred Mark Foley two years ago."

"His district, which includes northern Palm Beach County and several rural counties, has been Republican territory for many years. Mahoney just barely won in 2006 after both parties poured lots of money into a race that drew national attention." ...

IA: Reed Campaign: NRA rates Reed an 'A'
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"Christopher Reed, Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate recently received an 'A' rating from the [NRA]. Sen. Tom Harkin received an 'F' from the organization. The information may be found on the [NRA] website."

"'I am honored to receive this rating,' said Reed. 'I am a gun owner and an avid hunter, and I will respect our Founding Fathers and their fight to keep and bear arms. I will continue to fight for that right when I am elected to the U.S. Senate. Sen. Harkin has had that chance and he has virtually ignored it.' Reed received an AQ rating as pro-gun candidate whose rating is based solely on the candidates responses to the 2008 NRA-PVF Candidate Questionnaire ..." ...

TX: Astro's arrest leads to Galveston PD internal probe
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"Police have begun an internal investigation of a weekend confrontation between police and members of a wedding party that led to the arrest of Astros pitcher Brandon Backe."

"Witnesses said Monday that police needlessly beat, Tasered and pepper-sprayed wedding guests who were trying to comply with police commands during an incident in which officers arrested 10 people, including Backe, at an outdoor bar at the San Luis Hotel on Seawall Boulevard." ...

TX: Two officers charged with beating Pasadena cop
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"An apparent love triangle among three police officers erupted in violence last week, landing two of them in court Monday, officials said."

"Tina Marie Perez, 37, a Pasadena police officer, and Timothy Robert Troxell, 38, a South Houston police sergeant, are charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in connection with a confrontation between them and another Pasadena police officer ..."

"... The three officers were off-duty at the time."

"Perez and Troxell appeared in court Monday but were rescheduled to appear Nov. 12. They are free on $30,000 bond each. Perez's attorney, Charles Adams, said the incident is a case of self-defense." ...

OH: Detective's gun taken by thieves
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A gun belonging to the Lorain Police Department was stolen from the home of a police detective during a burglary, according to the Lorain County Sheriffs Office.

A sheriffs report stated the thief entered the home of Lorain police Detective Ralph Gonzalez through an unlocked rear door and stole three bottles of liquor, the gun and a brown leather holster.

The theft occurred between 8 a.m. and 12:05 p.m. Friday.

The gun was entered as a stolen weapon in a computer system used by police to track evidence including weapons.
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UK: Gun expert shot in hand sues PSNI
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"A police weapons specialist who shot himself in the hand is suing the PSNI."

"Peter Woods, 50, was dismantling a gun at a police facility in February last year when the accident happened."

"It is understood that he removed the magazine from a pistol, but a bullet in the chamber fired into his hand. He recovered from his injury."

"Lawyers for Mr Woods claimed in the High Court that proper safety procedures were not in place, and ammunition may have been faulty." ...

"His legal team is arguing that a proper risk assessment was not carried out and a second person should have been present to reduce the accident risk." ...

Ukraine: Ukrainian Security Service Officer Charged of Shooting in Bus Stop Detained in Kiev
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"Police officers have detained an officer of Security Service of Ukraine who is charged with shooting in the bus stop in a state of intoxication."

"Public Relations Office of the Interior Ministry of Ukraine said police officers detained 29 year old officer of Security Service of Ukraine who fired several shots from carbine in a state of intoxication wounding 25 year old resident of Sumsk province. The wounded was hospitalized with an initial diagnosis of gunshot wound on lefty knee and shin."

"The examination at the scene of incident by police officers revealed carbine, magazine with 25 caliber charge of 7.62mm and four shells of caliber of 7.62mm." ...

NY: Gun task force to meet in Albany tonight
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The Albany Gun Violence Task force will turn to the community once again Tuesday night as it continues in its efforts to stomp out gun violence in the city.

The group is holding another public forum at the IV Community Center on Madison Avenue at Ontario Street. The forum will begin at 7:00 PM and go until 9:00 PM.

This will be the Task Force's fourth community forum to update the public and seek community input.

The Task Force is scheduled to make its final report and recommendations to the Common Council in November.

NY: Pastor says Schenectady gun buyback program in jeopardy
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It's been a week since Albany Pastor Charlie Muller kicked off a gun buy-back program in Schenectady and he says the phones immediately began ringing.

Ten guns were taken off the streets in one week, but now there's word the program is in trouble.

Pastor Charlie says the $1,000 incentive the church put up is gone, forcing him to stop collecting guns from Schenectady.

Tonight at 6 p.m., the last of three prayer vigils will be held at Victory Christian Church, at 118 Quail Street in Albany, where Pastor Charlie will encourage all attending to put the word out to help in the Schenectady program.

MA: Are You Illegally Possessing A Firearm in Violation of Massachusetts Law?
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"Would it be considered a 'contract' if a firearms identification (FID) card, which allows the bearer to own firearms, was issued that stated the valid period was 'indefinite' or 'until revoked'?"

"A 2002 report released by the Commonwealth's House Post and Oversight Committee reported the state of Massachusetts failed to notify nearly 750,000 gun owners that their FID cards would prematurely expire due to the Massachusetts Gun Control Act of 1998."

"Did the 1998 law turn some of our law-abiding citizens into felons?"

"These questions are now being asked by many people: some involved from indictments, some who are sitting at home in fear." ...

IL: Morton Grove to watch state gun laws after settlement
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"The village will continue to keep its handgun ordinance in line with state law after a U.S. District Court judge accepted a settlement in a lawsuit against Morton Grove by the National Rifle Association."

"The suit was filed June 27 shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a Washington D.C. case that homeowners have a right to own handguns for protection. The suit was filed on behalf of the NRA and three local members, Patrick Kansoer, Donald Sonne and Jessica Sonne and sought to overturn the village's 27-year-old handgun ban."

"But after trustees repealed the ban in Late July the NRA agreed to the settlement and dismissed its suit. Under the settlement each side paid its own attorney's fees." ...

Mexico: Right Thing to Wear at the Wrong End of a Gun
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"Exclusive clothing boutiques line Avenida Presidente Masarik here. A Burberry coat? A Corneliani suit? A Gucci scarf? Have enough pesos, and they are yours."

"But tucked on a leafy side street ... is a shop unlike the others, one whose bustling business says much about the dire state of security in this country. At Miguel Caballero ... all the garments are bulletproof."

"There are bulletproof leather jackets and bulletproof polo shirts ... and even white ruffled tuxedo shirts. Every member of the sales staff has had to take a turn being shot while wearing one of the products, which range from a few hundred dollars to as much as $7,000, so they can attest to the efficacy of the secret fabric." ...