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Have 'Faith' in the Rights of Gun Owners
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Sens. John Thune (R-S.D.) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) recently introduced legislation to create a national standard for carrying concealed firearms. Under the bill, folks holding a permit to carry in their home state would be permitted to do so in every state."

"Article IV of the Constitution says that 'Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every other state.' The Article gives Congress the power to pass laws regulating the effects of this clause."

"The Full Faith and Credit Clause allows court decisions, taxation and extradition to remain valid between states ... Driver's licenses issued in one state, for example, are valid in all states." ...
 

PA: After a sting, a gun dealer gets stung
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"Fifteen years ago, when Raymond Tanner graduated high school, his dad switched careers."

"Radically."

"He sold his share of a dairy farm stand and opened a gun shop. The Bucks County family had always loved hunting, Tanner says, so selling rifles, revolvers and cartridges was a logical move."

"But going from butter to guns has its downside."

"... a Washington lobbying group could post your name on its Web site, naming you as an arms dealer who caters to criminals."

"Which is what happened last month when the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence released a report, 'Shady Dealings: Illegal Gun Trafficking from Licensed Gun Dealers.' Tanner's store was featured as one of the scurrilous."

"What the Brady Center didn't know is that the sale had been a sting, arranged in cooperation with the local office of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives." ...
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Submitter's Note: Here is what happens when you help the BATF.
 

Iraqi insurgents using Austrian rifles from Iran
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"Austrian sniper rifles that were exported to Iran have been discovered in the hands of Iraqi terrorists, The Daily Telegraph has learned."

"More than 100 of the .50 calibre weapons, capable of penetrating body armour, have been discovered by American troops during raids."

"The guns were part of a shipment of 800 rifles that the Austrian company, Steyr-Mannlicher, exported legally to Iran last year."

"The sale was condemned in Washington and London because officials were worried that the weapons would be used by insurgents against British and American troops." ...
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KABA Note: But didn't the Brady Center say that terrorists come to US gun shows to get their guns?
 

MS: Hung jury declared in nightclub murder trial
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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A jury deliberated for five hours Thursday before failing to reach a verdict in the killing of Michael Stallworth, who died in 2004 after a disagreement with another man outside a Gulfport nightclub.

The jury failed to convict defendant Juan Jackriel Jones, 31, a friend of Stallworth's, for shooting the victim twice with a semi-automatic pistol. Jones had pleaded self defense in the case, testifying that Stallworth attacked him in the parking lot of the Boiler Room Bar on July 17, 2004. [emphasis added]

Jones was indicted by a Harrison County Grand Jury on one count of murder and a second count of manslaughter. Prosecutors said today that they intend to retry the case.
 

Once again a gun saves lives
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"This past Monday night, a gunman walked into a popular Salt Lake City mall and opened fire with a shotgun. The trench coat-clad gunman was heavily armed and intended to kill as many people as he could. He killed five people before being challenged by an armed off-duty police officer. Once again, a gun saved lives."

"Salt Lake City's police chief said, 'There is no question that his [the off-duty policeman's] quick actions saved the lives of numerous other people.'" ...
 

UT: Firearms in Society
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Many of us watched the 1953 movie rendition of the Western pocketbook 'Shane' in elementary or middle school. ..."

"Aside from being a great American classic, the movie explores perplexing issues that persist into our day. In a particular scene, Shane, an incognito gunslinger, said to a homesteader's wife, 'A gun is a tool, Marian. No better and no worse than any other tool - an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.'"

"On Monday night, we saw the evil an individual can wreak with a gun when 18-year-old Sulejman Talovic stormed Trolley Square in downtown Salt Lake City, armed to the teeth ... this massacre would have been much worse had a good man with a gun not been there." ...
 

NM: Bill would help us defend ourselves
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"A Carlsbad legislator has introduced a set of bills that, while attracting little attention so far, could make some big changes in New Mexico law if they are passed."

"Democrat Rep. John Heaton is touting the bills as a way to promote the responsible use of firearms ..."

"Perhaps the most interesting one of the lot is House Bill 163, officially titled Justifiable Use of Defense Force. It's also known as the Castle Doctrine - as in 'a man's home is his castle.' And yes, it entails exactly what you might imagine, the proposition that a New Mexican should have the right to use force - even deadly force - in defending his home, his life, his family or his property if he has a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm ..." ...
 

MT: House votes to expand rights of gun users
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"Residents would be allowed to brandish a firearm if they felt threatened, and would not be required to retreat from a would-be assailant before shooting in self-defense under a measure working its way through the Legislature."

"House Bill 340, endorsed Thursday by the state House, is intended to expand the right to bear arms, but was criticized by opponents for giving criminals new legal loopholes and making the streets more dangerous for police."

"Rep. Ed Butcher, R-Winifred, said he once pointed his gun in the face of an assailant, only to be charged with endangerment. While he later won the case in court, he said the new law would have saved him a lot of trouble." ...
 

DC: Marion Barry's Bright Idea
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"City leaders in Washington, D.C. have finally admitted their 30-year gun ban hasn't done a bit of good. That’s the good news. The bad news is they're proposing something that strikes me as just as stupid, all in the name of reducing crime."

"Former mayor Marion Barry says he wants to end the District's ban on handgun ownership for ninety days. That's right. For three months, you can legally register a handgun with the city, and Barry says after the ninety day period is over, you'll still be able to keep your gun, or so the politicians say now."

"Forgive me for not trusting Mr. Barry, but his proposal came complete with sound bites about 'a gun-violence epidemic' and 'getting guns off the streets.' ..." ...
 

MO: House expands potential victims’ right to use deadly force
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"The House voted yesterday to expand the right for potential crime victims to use deadly force against their attackers."

"House members endorsed a bill barring civil lawsuits against people who injure or kill someone attempting to enter their home or car."

"The bill would in most cases make an intruder's mere presence grounds for using deadly force. That would not apply when someone using deadly force was breaking the law when confronted or when the intruder is a police officer engaged in official business." ...
 

AR: "Stand your ground" law fails in committee
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"I received an email from Representative Steve Harrelson, he writes that the vote went down 8 to 9 against HB 1027. He voted for the bill."

"I want to thank him and Representative Burris and all the other members of the committee for their courage to do the right thing and stand up for the law abiding citizen over what the Prosecuting Attorneys wanted. This is not the end of this." ...
 

Virginia Ratifying Convention, "If the whole country be in arms", June 21, 1788
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"...Mr. Chairman, it seems to have been a rule with the gentlemen on the other side to argue from the excellency of human nature, in order to induce us to grant away (if I may be allowed the expression) the rights and liberties of our country...."

"...But power ought to have such checks and limitations as to prevent bad men from abusing it...."

"...If the Congress cannot make a law against the Constitution, I apprehend they cannot make a law to abridge it. The judges are to defend it. They can neither abridge nor extend it..."

"...I hope it will never be so here. If the whole country be in arms . . . I can see no instance where this can be abused. It will answer every purpose of the government, and individual security....
 

Henry Laurens to John Lewis Gervais, "Men of property . . . cunning Men, & their cunning is exceedingly baneful", Aug. 5, 1777
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"...whence we hope to derive such Aid from the Militia as will at least check Mr Bourgoynes Progress. I am sorry to say he seems at present to be bearing down all before him..."

"...The repeated Instances of British cruelty exercised upon American Prisoners..."

"...Not one of these projects could be executed if the people were anxious to defeat them, but there seems to be an universal langour, except in the article of Money. Zeal & animation to make as much of that as possible & by all possible ways & means are very visible among all Classes. While this Spirit Governs nothing more can be expected than base defensive action..."

"...Our greatest Enemies are within ourselves & not among those Men who oppose us by Arms..."
 

Pennsylvania - James Wilson, "So, if they take it at all, they must take it by usurpation and force", (The best clause by clause definition of the United States Constitution), Nov./Dec., 1787
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"...On the other hand, it was well known, that, however the citizens of the United States might with pleasure submit to the legitimate restraints of a republican constitution, they would reject with indignation the fetters of despotism..."

"...The liberty of every member is increased by this introduction..."

"...we now remark that civil liberty is necessary to the perfection of civil government. Civil liberty is natural liberty itself, divested of only that part which, placed in the government, produces more good and happiness to the community than if it had remained in the individual. Hence it follows that civil liberty, while it resigns a part of natural liberty, retains the free and generous exercise of all the human faculties..."
 

"Agreed to found our Rights upon the Laws of Nature...."
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"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights..."

"...This is the broad basis on which our independence was placed: on the same certain and solid foundation this system is erected..."

"...It is laid before the citizens of the United States, unfettered by restraint; it is laid before them to be judged by the natural, civil, and political rights of men..."

"...They will be interested, and I hope will exert themselves, to secure their rights not only from being injured by the state governments, but also from being injured by the general government...."
 

Benjamin Rush's Notes for a Speech in Congress, August 1, 1776
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"...I am not able to point out all the mischiefs &c. In every case of doubtful issue it becomes us to imitate the mariner who has lost sight of the sun-keep eye steadily fixed upon his compass-thus we should keep our eyes steadily fixed on the principles of reason & rules of justice...."

"...The Objects before us are the people's rights, not the rights of States. Every man in America stands related to two legislative bodies-he deposits his property, liberty & life with his own State, but his trade [and] Arms, the means of enriching & defending himself* & his honor, he deposits with the congress."

"If entitled to equal representation] in the first case, why not in the second?"
 

Samuel Ward to John Ward, "but without Liberty my dearest there is no safety or enjoyment in Life", Feb. 10, 1776
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"...When the Enemy has invaded our Lives, Liberty and Property, We must exert every Nerve to defend them; when We have once secured them, let Us turn our Attention to the Conveniences of Life- but without Liberty my dearest there is no safety or enjoyment in Life. Could you read History and see the dreadful Miseries of the unhappy People who have lost their Liberty, young as you are I believe you would consent to give up Goods, Business & ease & every pleasure and chearfully suffer all the Dangers & Hardships of War & even risque your Life in Defence of your Country rather than submit to that horrid State of Oppression, Slavery & Misery..."
 

Samuel Ward's Notes for a Speech in Congress, "whatever is originally wrong in its own Nature cannot be sanctifyed or made right by Repetition & Use", Oct. 12, 1774
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"...Mankind prompted to Society by Nature (to associate) & finding they could not procure or enjoy the necessaries and Conveniences of Life or defend themselves from Force & Injury..."

"...their Oppressors who like true Tyrants would allow them no greater Share of the Produce of their own Labours than will be barely sufficient to preserve their miserable Beings in such a State as may qualify them for further Servitude..."

"...& innumerable other Laws Statutes & Regulations (& Burdens) which would soon deprive us of all Liberty & Property..."

"...Quod ab initio injustum est nullo potest fieri modo aut usu justum aut rectum..."

"...The Moment then the Man has it in his Power he may assert his Freedom & recover Possession..."
 

Journals of the Continental Congress, "And, with respect to all such unworthy Americans", Jan. 02, 1776
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"...the various arts of administration to ensnare and enslave us, and the manner in which we have been cruelly driven to defend, by arms, those very rights, liberties and estates, which we and our forefathers had so long enjoyed unmolested..."

"...being fully persuaded that the more our right to the enjoyment of our ancient liberties and privileges is examined, the more just and necessary our present opposition to ministerial tyranny will appear..."

"...And, with respect to all such unworthy Americans, as, regardless of their duty to their Creator, their country and their posterity, have taken part with our oppressors, and, influenced by the hope or possession of ignominious rewards..."
 

NY: Judge Limits New York Police Taping
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"In a rebuke of a surveillance practice greatly expanded by the New York Police Department after the Sept. 11 attacks, a federal judge ruled yesterday that the police must stop the routine videotaping of people at public gatherings unless there is an indication that unlawful activity may occur. "

"Four years ago, at the request of the city, the same judge, Charles S. Haight Jr., gave the police greater authority to investigate political, social and religious groups."

"In yesterday's ruling, Judge Haight, of United States District Court in Manhattan, found that by videotaping people who were exercising their right to free speech and breaking no laws, the Police Department had ignored the milder limits he had imposed on it in 2003." ...
 

India: Probe 'fake encounters' in Kashmir: rights group
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"The alleged killing of innocent Kashmiris by security forces in staged gun battles must be independently investigated, Human Rights Watch said yesterday." ...

"'The Indian security forces have ... staged fake encounter killings while fabricating claims that those killed were militants,' Brad Adams, the group's Asia director, said."

"Last month, security forces started investigations into recent incidents in which policemen allegedly murdered five civilians."

"Their bodies were then believed to have been passed off as militants shot in self-defence to earn cash rewards and medals." ...
 

OH: Getting My Concealed Handgun License (BFA)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"We finally did it. This past weekend, my wife and I finally took our twelve hour class that is required to obtain our concealed handgun license (CHL). It may be shocking to many people that I waited this long to obtain my CHL, because I have been very active in the fight to protect our Second Amendment rights. I am a part-time police officer, and that allowed me to carry off-duty without obtaining a CHL."

"... I have often asked pro-Second Amendment people to obtain their CHL, even if they did not plan on carrying a firearm. This would increase the number of people who have their CHL and strength is in numbers. Having a high number of CHL holders helps pro-Second Amendment organizations ..." ...
 

KS: Gun owners press Hutchinson stores to allow concealed weapons
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"When Kansas began allowing qualified citizens to carry concealed handguns, A.J. Conard posted a sign at her business prohibiting them. When two members of a gun club objected to the sign, she took it down."

"A small victory - Conard says she had mistakenly thought the sign was required by law - but one that a handful of Hutchinson area gun owners hope to duplicate at other stores through boycotts." ...

"At Sunset Pawn and Jewelry, owner Ralph Thrash said he's taken grief from a number of customers, but he's keeping the signs up." ...

"'It's their right to carry,' Thrash said. 'And it's our right to say no.'"
 

FL: Congress must take action to diminish access to guns
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"Re: 'Get the killer guns ...' (editorial, Feb. 4): You write, 'There's profound disagreement about whether to enact new gun laws,' in reference to possible legislative action to regulate assault weapons that are usually cited as the cause of multiple deaths such as drive-by shootings in Florida."

"The gun debate needs to be fought at both the state and national levels. Your editorial correctly states that the debate over gun control has long since been "hijacked" by the National Rifle Association, and that Congress needs to take immediate action to dramatically reduce access to guns in the U.S., especially among criminals." ...
 

UK: Gun crime across England and Wales has increased every year over the last decade
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"Gun crime across England and Wales has increased every year over the last decade." ...

"The Home Office insists that gun crime in England and Wales is rare - less than 0.5% of all crime recorded by the police." ...

"But officials acknowledge that the number of overall offences involving firearms has increased every year since 1997/98."

"In the 12 months to June 2005, there were 10,979 gun crimes in England and Wales - almost twice as many as in 1997/8."

"The Home Office says much of the increase is due to an increase in the number of offences involving imitation weapons as well as changes in the way gun crime is recorded."
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KABA Note: For the past 5 years the Home Office has claimed that the increase in gun crime is due to "changes in the way gun crime is recorded".
 

UK: We are not responsible for rifles, says Austria
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"Austria yesterday washed its hands of any responsibility after it was revealed that powerful sniper rifles it sold to Iran had been acquired by insurgents in Iraq."

"The Daily Telegraph revealed yesterday that American troops had recovered more than 100 Steyr HS50 Mannlicher rifles, part of a consignment of 800 sold to Iran by Austria last year, during a series of raids in Iraq."

"Astrid Harz, a spokesman for the Austrian foreign ministry, said yesterday that the sale had been 'checked very thoroughly' and what happened to the rifles after they were delivered to Teheran ostensibly for use by border police was not the responsibility of her government. It was the responsibility of the Iranians, she said." ...
 

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