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Federal judge rules police cannot detain people for openly carrying guns
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"On September 8, 2009, United States District Judge Bruce D. Black of the United States District Court for New Mexico entered summary judgment in a civil case for damages against Alamogordo, NM police officers. The Judge's straight shootin' message to police: Leave open carriers alone unless you have 'reason to believe that a crime [is] afoot.'"

"The facts of the case are pretty simple. Matthew St. John entered an Alamogordo movie theater as a paying customer and sat down to enjoy the movie. He was openly carrying a holstered handgun ..."

"In response to a call from theater manager Robert Zigmond, the police entered the movie theater, physically seized Mr. St. John from his seat, took him outside, disarmed him, searched him ..." ...

Gun owners deceived by Obama, as Holder reveals Gun Attack Plan: Gun rights group
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama deliberately and repeatedly lied to America's 90 million gun owners across the country when he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone's firearms, officials from the [CCRKBA] said in a statement released to the National Association of Chiefs of Police."

"CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, reacting to ongoing remarks by Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder that the president will seek to reinstate the ban on semi-automatic firearms, said Obama 'knew he was lying to the nation because his own website touted his plan to revive the gun ban and make it permanent.'"

"'We warned America that Obama's 'support' for the Second Amendment was empty rhetoric,' he stated, ..." ...

Casus Belli: The meaning of "Not one more inch."
Submitted by: Mike Vanderboegh
Website: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com

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A new reader has commented . . . "I don't think they will ever give a clear point at which you can decide to fight back. It will be extreme incrementalism. . ."

I get this a lot. From some, like the Prags, it is calculated defeatism. They deny that anyone will resist because that is the one thing that frightens them to death. . . From most others it is a genuine concern. . . For Three Percenters, however, incrementalism is exactly the reason we have taken our stand.

This is why we declare "not one more inch." . . . I suppose that someone on the other side, reading "not one more inch" might conclude he can get away with a half-inch or a quarter inch.

That would be a fatal mistake.

For a whole lot of people.

Mainstream and Threeper Arrangements for 12 September March.
Submitted by: Mike Vanderboegh
Website: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com

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I will be riding up to DC with my good friend Pete from WRSA, who has this discussion below about mainstream and Threeper arrangements. I will say one thing. I know we talked about toy guns and empty holsters in some of the posts, but after due consideration I would like to discourage that. Both empty holsters and toy guns are rather gelded gestures. Now, if you want to bring a sign that says: "Don't make us have to come back here with our rifles," that's a fair warning.

See you there.

Mike
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Turning the State Against Law-Abiding Citizens
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"In every fascistic society the government eventually resorts to the vilification of its own citizenry that's the schoolboy lesson from 20th century Italy, Soviet Russia, and of course, the Third Reich. ..." ...

"Actually, the Obama Administration's purge of the political opposition started months before ... when the Department of Homeland Security released a document bearing the none-too-subtle title, 'Rightwing Extremism ...'" ...

"Are you a returning veteran? Do you believe in the Second Amendment? Have you ever worried about 'perceived government infringement on civil liberties'? ..."

"If you answered 'yes' to any of these questions, Homeland Security has now classified you as an extremist." ...

Well, well, lookie here, boys and girls! Eric Holder must be a secret fan.
Submitted by: Mike Vanderboegh

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Just received this from David Codrea. It seems somebody in the Justice Department is a fan of my writing.

Since it seems so popular, I'll reprint it here. Maybe these boys are suckers for a gambit. Hey, Eric, if you want me to autograph it, I'll be in your neck of the woods on Saturday. C'mon down. You can even get Stewart Rhodes of Oath Keepers to help you re-swear your oath, in case you've forgotten it already.

Mike
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Saturday, April 28, 2007

Guest Editorial: "Kill All They Send..."

The Modest Proposal of "Homer Simpson's Dumber Brother" for Gun Confiscation & A Modest Counter-Proposal

8 Awesome Activities That Became Illegal
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"Growing up, watching movies, you've seen people having fun and doing awesome things ... But, like anything awesome, they were all made illegal. Weve compiled a list of the top 8 awesome activities that used to be legal ..." ...

"Guns In Public

"... For the longest time, the second amendment, protecting our right to keep and bear arms, allowed us to freely walk with them in public. Yes, there may have been the Wild West and, while thats a great example, its not the one were going for here. No, were talking about more recent day farming towns, small towns, the Midwest. You could carry your .44 Magnum revolver on your hip, your double barrel Remington on a rack in your truck, and you'd be greeted openly. ..." ...

David Sirota Dodges My Bet, Keeps Firing Blanks
Submitted by: Rick Schwartz
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"So, David Sirota has gotten around to responding to my wager. Of course, he isnt going to take the wager but he is manfully trying to find his way out of the corner into which he has painted himself though his (a) ignorance or (b) dishonesty on the question of firearms and the damage they are capable of doing."

"A quick explanation: Sirota wrote that he was worried about guns capable of being used to kill 'scores' of people in a matter of 'seconds.' Offering the most generous interpretation of his words that is logically sound, I offered him a bet: That he cannot use any firearm covered by the old 'Assault Weapons Ban' to make 40 (two score) kill-zone hits on human-sized targets in less than one minute. ..." ...

Cabala's NRA 2nd Amendment Workshop a rousing success
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"Recently I was invited to attend a Second Amendment workshop at the Cabala's in Dundee, Michigan. The event was organized by Wayne Blank, an NRA certified instructor, training councilor, and Election Volunteer Coordinator (EVC.)"

"The event was held on August 29 and was an all day event held at a huge Cabala's store the ultimate shopping for anyone who enjoys the outdoors. The list of speakers included several friends in the fight to restore our rights. I was humbled to be included with them and gladly accepted the invitation to speak." ...

Protests are no place for assault weapons
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A couple of weeks ago, television news reported what I thought were scenes from a foreign country where carrying assault weapons in the street is standard fare."

"Wrong. It was here in the U.S.--in Portsmouth, N.H., where President Obama was holding a town hall meeting."

"I understand this is legal in states where legislatures representing the people enacted such laws. Consequently, we the people get what we voted for."

"I wonder if this is the future where everything has to be pushed to the limit."

"After learning this was a staged event where local police were cooperating in case protection was necessary for those carrying weapons, it makes it no easier to accept." ...

Leave Security to the Professionals
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"The New York Post featured a banner headline last week. It read, 'Go Ahead, Make My High Holiday'. It tells the story of a bunch of well-intentioned knuckleheads, led by Rabbi Gary Moscowitz, a former member of the NYPD who was relieved of his duties for unspecified reasons. The group is doing 'anti-terrorist training' and preparing to bring weapons to synagogue to deal with the possible threat of terrorism over Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. I am not sure which is worse -- how stupid this is, or how dangerous."

"... fighting terrorists is serious business and requires more than a few hours at a firing range and time spent doing stunts borrowed from Chuck Norris movies. ..." ...
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Submitter's Note: So if Reb Hirschfield is having a heart attack or choking on a piece of food he would want bystanders to 'leave it to the professionals' instead of trying CPR or the Heimlich manuever?

Gun Show Report Details Why New Gun Laws Needed
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"A new report on gun shows in the U.S., the result of more than three years of intensive research including visits to some 78 gun shows in 19 states, provides a compelling look at these events and a factual primer on why lax regulations on firearms sales at shows in many states are a problem." ...
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KABA Note: Of course as pointed out by Dave Workman, the study shows nothing of the kind. As Dr. Wintemute himself stated "'It's just as a matter of logic that private party sales are more likely to result in criminal use of firearms, but it's an inference at this point." [emphasis added]

Fear-Mongering Not the Answer to Fear
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"The announcement by some rabbis that they were planning to bring guns to High Holy Day services in order to deal with any would-be attackers brought to mind my own holiday services, Eid ul Fitr, which are coming up in a couple weeks. Many mosques in America hire security services, or have police details ensuring security during the very popular morning services. ... due to regular attacks on mosques across the country, they are considered de riguer." ...

"The proper response to these kinds of attacks is just what the Muslim community has done ... Having the Imam -- or the Rabbi -- carrying a gun is not only ineffective, but it only serves to create or enhance irrational fears." ...
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Submitter's Note: So hiring someone to carry a gun is okay, but taking responsibility for your own safety and the safety of your congregation is irrational?

Carrying Guns At Presidential Events
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Hey I got a great idea!"

"Lets carry guns at the next healthcare townhall meeting."

"Oh wait, some one already beat me to it."

"Yes, the sad truth is that someone has already beat me to it. Not only once though, it has happened a couple times. First it started out with a guy carrying a pistol(first picture below). Then it grew to someone with an assault rifle, an AR-15 (second picture below). Maybe next time it will be a bazooka."

"So what were these people thinking?" ...

NY: An Anti-Endorsement I'm Thrilled to Have
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"Our campaign for Manhattan DA has received many endorsements ... but today it's an anti-endorsement I'm particularly proud to receive."

"Specifically, the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, the official NRA-affiliated State Association in New York, urged its members yesterday to vote against me in the race for DA. And I couldn't be prouder."

"Taking aggressive but common-sense measures to keep New Yorkers safe from gun violence is what this city needs, but is something the NYSRPA doesn't seem to get. What they did get right is that as someone who has worked as a national leader in handgun control, I will do everything in my power as District Attorney to make sure that laws are passed and real action is taken on this issue." ...
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KABA Note: As a lawyer Dick should know better than to 'assume facts not in evidence'. The most comprehensive government study on the subject showed that gun laws do not affect crime.

GA: GCO Asks Court to Reject MARTAs Firearm Policy
Submitted by: Mark
Website: http://www.georgiacarry.org

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"GCO has filed a motion in its federal lawsuit against MARTA, seeking, among other things, an injunction against MARTAs policy of detaining everyone seen carrying a firearm. In its motion, GCO quotes MARTA officials who testified that MARTA has a 'procedure' to detain anyone seen carrying a firearm to check for ID and GFL. ... Comparing the facts of this case to a United States Supreme Court opinion that it is unconstitutional to stop a motorist just to see if he has a drivers license, GCO argues that stopping someone just to see if he has a GFL violates the Fourth Amendment." ...

WA: Rossland boy suffers cougar attack
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A five-year-old Rossland boy has been hospitalized, treated and released after a cougar attack in Stevens Country, Wa., yesterday" ...

"'His parents, of Rossland, British Columbia, reported a cougar suddenly jumped out of a brushy area onto the boy, who was near his mother on the trail,' said the release. 'The mother reportedly fought off the cougar and the parents took the child to Kootenay Boundary Regional Hospital in Trail.'" ...
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H/t to David Codrea who points out that this is proof we don't need guns in parks, because we can just fight cougars off with our bare hands.

MO: Uncertainties draw more people to firearms training
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Alan and Linda Laird can almost predict the answers."

"The certified firearms instructors ask students why they decided to take training in the proper use of a gun."

"Invariably, most responses range from fear of being a crime victim to concern about government limitations on gun rights."

"The Lairds have felt the same anxieties."

"Thats why they offer a monthly class that explores the logistical, legal and moral aspects of gun ownership, which is rising rapidly across the nation."

"'We know the world is growing more dangerous everyday,' said Alan Laird. 'I'm very encouraged to see the number of people who are sharing this interest. I believe it's the right thing to do.'" ...

Gun Owners Should Support Danny Tarkanian for Senate Submitted by: David Codrea Website: http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
"It's a bigger race. It's one we can win. And if we do, it will topple one of our most powerful politicians and shake the Senate to its core."

NY: NRA mailer targeting Roefaro hits local mailboxes
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"Members of the National Rifle Association and the administration of Mayor David Roefaro verbally fired back and forth Wednesday, after an NRA mailer targeting the mayor showed up in some city mailboxes."

"The mailer focused on the Roefaro's involvement of 'Mayors Against Illegal Guns,' which it said was founded and funded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg."

"'They claim they are for illegal guns, yet every single one of their proposals goes after law-abiding gun-owners,' said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulandam."

"Arulandam specifically criticized the group's objection to the federal Thune and Tiahrt amendments." ...

NY: 'Gunnies' target Candidates Richard Aborn and David Yassky
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"The New York State Rifle & Pistol Association is urging its supporters to vote against Manhattan district attorney candidate Richard Aborn and controller hopeful David Yassky in next Tuesday's primary."

"'It is important to get as many gunnies to show up and vote as possible, especially in NYC where we have a realistic shot at knocking out Aborn & Yassky,' the group wrote in a message to supporters."

"Aborn, a national gun control advocate, is the former head of Handgun Control, which is now known as the Brady Campaign. Yassky, a former aide to Sen. Charles Schumer (D-New York), worked with the senator to bass[sic] the Brady Bill, the landmark gun control legislation." ...
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KABA Note: A big 'thank-you!' to the Daily News for helping to spread the word.

The Sunstein Also Rises
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"The Senate may vote as soon as today on the nomination of noted and oft-cited law professor Cass Sunstein to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs ..." ...

"Sunstein last year in a paper for the Harvard Law Review wrote that the Second Amendment has 'a unique status in contemporary American culture; it has been recognized as a right, and with great intensity, by citizens and politicians of both parties. An interpretation of the Founding document that denied the right would likely create forms of public outrage, political polarization, and social disruption that have not been seen in many decades. ...'" ...

Sunstein 'Most Dangerous' Czar
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"Conservative talker Glenn Beck says Cass Sunstein, who is awaiting Senate confirmation as President Obama's new Regulatory Czar, 'is probably the most dangerous czar out there.'"

"Sunstein, a Harvard Law School professor and longtime friend of Obama, would head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, and oversee all governmental regulations."

"Beck blasted Sunstein on the air Wednesday and outlined several of his positions:"

"'Cass Sunstein is a guy who is against the Second Amendment, who believes that the purpose of the Second Amendment is not an individual right but a federal right. He says almost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine.'" ...

20,000 TEA Party attendees hear BFA question John Kasich on gun rights in Ohio
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Gun owners across these United States, and in Ohio particularly, have long questioned the one blemish on GOP gubernatorial-hopeful John Kasich's Second amendment record - his 1994 vote in favor of Bill Clinton's 'Crime Bill', which outlawed several types of commonly owned firearms."

"This weekend's Townhall at the Cincinnati area Voice of America TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party rally was attended by an estimated 20,000, and as a volunteer for Buckeye Firearms Association, I was able to ask Mr. Kasich exactly where he now stands on gun rights. Here is what we heard." ...

Sunstein Flunks Gun Rights Test
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Harvard Law School professor Cass R. Sunstein, the president's embattled nominee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, misfired one time too many."

"Mr. Sunstein has been assuring Second Amendment advocates, including key Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, that he strongly believes the Constitution protects an individual right to bear arms. ..." ...

"A videotape has surfaced of a lecture Mr. Sunstein gave at the University of Chicago on Oct. 23, 2007. Here is what he said: 'My coming view is that the individual right to bear arms reflects the success of an extremely aggressive and resourceful social movement and has much less to do with good standard legal arguments than [it] appears.' ..." ...

Even ATF Employees Fed Up with Corruption and Incompetence Submitted by: David Codrea Website: http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner	There are no comments on this story Post Comments \| Read Comments
"So what can we do--right now--that has a reasonable chance of making headway? Fortunately, there is something--and it comes from what many will consider two unlikely sources."

US Girl Scouts prepare for war, pestilence
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"The United States wants to enlist its 3.4 million Girl Scouts in the effort to combat hurricanes, pandemics, terror attacks and other disasters."

"The [DHS] launched a campaign Tuesday to entice the blue, brown and green-clad multitudes to be even more prepared, with the promise of a new patch if they pitch in."

"The young scouts will be able to emblazon their sashes or vests with the patch if they undergo the training which readies them for an emergency."

"'This new preparedness patch will increase citizen preparedness and enhance our country's readiness for disasters,' said DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano in a statement." ...

TX: In Texas, police worried about losing gun permit notification
Submitted by: Daniel White
Website: http://www.OhioCCW.org

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"The Houston Chronicle is reporting that 'a small change in concealed handgun laws has created safety concerns among Houston police officers who work the streets.'"

"The change is that 'the new law removes the penalty for failing to show a police officer a concealed handgun license (CHL) when stopped by an officer who asks for identification.' ..." ...

"Proponents of the new legislation argue that the penalty was too severe. Ohio has a similar provision in our law, and several people have ended up in court over it. In one case, a man claimed he did notify but the police didn't hear him because they were yelling orders. In another, a man was charged for taking 51 seconds to notify, which the police felt wasn't prompt enough though a judge later disagreed." ...

LA: Jefferson Parish Correctional Officer Arrested
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A Jefferson Parish correctional officer was arrested and suspended Sunday after being involved in what investigators believe to be some sort of domestic disturbance involving a car chase."

"Deputies said Officer Edward Elvir was driving a vehicle and chasing another car down Metairie Road. The car being chased crashed into a wall."

"Elvir's cousin, Edguardo Castro, a Jefferson Parish sheriff's deputy, was riding in the vehicle with him when the accident occurred."

"The driver of the car that hit the wall was cited for reckless operation of a motor vehicle." ...

"Elvir was charged with reckless operation of a motor vehicle and DWI. He has been suspended pending the outcome of the sheriff's office investigation." ...

TX: Man Buried In Pontiac Catalina With Guns!
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Forget a coffin, the man buried Pontiac Catalina style will be cruising through heaven. The man spoke for years about being buried in his 73 Pontiac Catalina."

"... Lonnie Holloway was slick. He would get his hair cleaned up twice a week, and cruised around in a classic car, with white-walled tires. He even had a custom tag that simply read 'Lonnie.' ..."

"He also appreciated his second amendment right to bear armshes going to be interred with all of his guns in the trunk. So he wasn't just a smooth character, he was also responsible. Friends say he wanted the guns to be placed in the earth with him so that they wouldnt end up in the wrong hands." ...
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Submitter's Note: If his guns fit in the trunk he couldn't have had that many . . .