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Should Christians Comply With Gun Confiscation?
Submitted by: Pastor Guest

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"Jim Z. writes:"

"'If the government put down a law tomorrow that said we had to turn in all privately owned fire arms, as Christians, should we obey that law? ...'"

"I answered:"

"I dont know where you are in your knowledge of the Bible. ... However, the idea that Christians should comply with gun confiscation is not biblical."

"Gun control in any form is not biblical. The Bible tells us that Cain killed Abel Genesis 4:8 but it does not tell us how he did it or with what tool. Evil lies with people and their deeds, not the tools they use. The idea that depriving people of inanimate objects will stop them from doing evil has no basis in Scripture." ...

Comment by: Harbinger (8/27/2007)

NO ONE, anywhere, of any faith, should turn in their guns. Yes, I include those Islamofascist wackos in that. Why? Because anyone can face a situation in which he or she has a chance to defend someone he or she considers to be innocent and who may in fact BE innocent. Because anyone, anywhere, can have a change of heart and BECOME the innocent, vulnerable to oppression (Witness Islam-to-Christian converts getting death threats). The power, the right, of self-defense is God-given, no matter which god one believes in, or none.
The gun is a tool. It's what one does with it that matters. An Islamofascist who does not kill or incite others to kill is no threat. His guns don't bother me. Especially if I have mine in reach.

Comment by: Harbinger (8/27/2007)

Remember, "If the Arabs would lay down their arms, Middle East violence would cease to exist.
If the Israelis would lay down THEIR arms, ISRAEL would cease to exist."

Comment by: punch (8/27/2007)

"Weapons are the tools of power, In the hands of the state, they can be the tools of decency or the tools of oppression, depending on the righteousness of that state. In the hands of the free and decent citizen, they should be the tools of liberty. Weapons compound man's power to achieve whatever purpose he may have. They amplify the capabilities of both the good man and the bad, and to exactly the same degree, having no will of their own. Thus, we must regard them as servants, not masters - and good servants of good men. Without them, man is diminished, and his opportunities to fulfill his destiny are lessened. An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and the evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -- Col. Jeff Cooper

Comment by: crotalus (8/27/2007)

If Christians are supposed to obey a gun confiscation law, the why did God bless our War for Independence with what was then a Nation based on freedom?

Comment by: farmer@sou.edu (8/28/2007)

The moral high ground of this question can be
answered by accessing www.chuckbaldwinlive.com.
Under "Chuck's Archived Column" two articles related to this question are:

" Romans Chapter 13" for August 10, 2007
and :
"America's Pastors: Preachers Of Truth Or
Promotors Of Tyranny" for August 21, 2007.

I think this should be sufficient in addressing
and answering this issue. Chuck Baldwin was
2004 candidate for Vice President running on
the Constitution Party platform.

Comment by: gdhanddym@bellsouth.net (8/28/2007)

A Catholic Franciscan priest once told me that we as christians should advocate peace and non violence, but at the same time we are NOT doormats on which the enemies of peace and freedom can walk. If we must fight we fight as a last resort to bring about a swift peace and an end to tyranny. Amen, father.

Comment by: senorglock@aol.com (8/28/2007)

The Bible is a pretty violent book. If guns are turned in does that mean we must turn in our slingshots and asses jawbones ? Sissors did a job on a pretty strong guy (Samson.) I guess they would have to go too. I suggest we keep the guns and get rid of religion. Look at the World today, every major conflict is one religion trying to destroy another. Ireland- Protestant vs Catholic, Middle East - Jew vs Arab, Iraq - one Muslem faction trying to destroy another, terrorism - Musleums trying to destroy all infidels (all other religions.) Give it a little thought and you'll be able to come up with more religion fueled conflicts.

Comment by: gdhanddym@bellsouth.net (8/28/2007)

I disagree. It is the extremist that hides behind religion as a means of justifying their bid for power and control. Religion in and of itself is not the culprit.

Comment by: thomaspaine@commonsense.org (8/28/2007)

All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void, Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury vs. Madison, 5, U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, 174, 176,(1803)

We don't live in a theocracy, we live in a Constitutional Republic and christians, muslims, buddhists, agnostics, atheists, flying spaghetti monsterists should not comply with a blatantly unconstitutional law.

Comment by: madashell (8/28/2007)

Sad truth is our government has recruited 26,000 Judas goats to tell the people turn in your guns, be patient and time will sort this out.

Remember after Oklahoma City when the NRA said that none of its members should belong to a militia and that NRA members should obey the law.
Senator Larry NRA Craig is in trouble for lewd behavior, broke back mountain stuff is the way Drudge has it listed today.

I once heard the reason the republicans couldnt repeal any gun control laws or promote a conservative agenda is because they were being blackmailed. Maybe theres more truth to that message than I thought.

Comment by: Cloudminder (8/28/2007)

Senorglock, there have been @ 1.763 wars in recorded human historty. Only about 5-7% of them have been fought for religious motives. And the 7% figure is very generous.
Yes, if you look at the mideast, and Al-Qaeda/taliban it looks like religion plays a large role, but OTOH there are a lot more wars going on than the MSM account for, and have been back through history, too.

Comment by: Cloudminder (8/28/2007)

Hmmm, obviously I meant 1,763 .... NOT 1.763 !!

Comment by: talktome@uswest.net (8/28/2007)

Cloudminder:

Please cite your sources. I have to say that I'm skeptical of those numbers.

Comment by: khicks62@comcast.net (8/28/2007)

try luke 22,36 even jesus told his followers to buy a sword

Comment by: Harbinger (8/28/2007)

www.jpfo.org has a wonderful handbill on their web site today. It shows the foolishness of the REVEREND Jesse Jackson and his followers supporting gun laws designed and misapplied by the ATF. It includes a reproduction of the [N-word] Hunting License that ATF agents guffawed over at their Good Ol' Boy Roundup picnic. Waco, an attempt to make a huge bust to erase that embarrassing episode, soon followed.
JPFO's Alert quotes Malcolm X on self-defense. Malcolm said the same thing WE say.
Who would CHOOSE slavery's return? Those who intend to be the slavemasters?

Comment by: gunowner.com (8/28/2007)

As a pastor, I would not ask fellow Christians to turn in the very tools they may need to survive or to protect their families and loved ones. I do not think that government has the right to ask me to do such. That is my decision. I believe that there is such a thing as a just war. Pastors who comply with this governmental scheme are more than likely liberal pastors from liberal denominations who do not believe that Bible to be the inspired word of God. Sometimes a person has no choice other than to fight. In such cases it is better to make the enemy die than allowing myself to be killed. Enough said.

Comment by: meso@noncom.com (8/28/2007)

""You shall not wrong any widow or orphan. If ever you wrong them and they cry out to me, I will surely hear their cry. My wrath will flare up, and I will kill you with the sword; then your own wives will be widows, and your children orphans" (Exodus 22:21-23)."

Comment by: nonsporting (8/28/2007)

It is the responsibility of Christians to be good stewards. One of the gifts God has given us is "government." When the government goes bad, it is our job to correct it. We have a variety of tools for imparting correction.

Comment by: Judy (8/29/2007)

Punch is right on......Anyone quoting the Colonel is allright with me. The rest is horse hockey!